slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
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slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi Robin,
I would like to report two issues that occur in last version(s) of SharpCap.
#1 - max fps rate is now slower (e.g. only 40fps in a 640x480 fov for 10ms exposure whereas in earlier versions, and different software, was/is about 100fps). This slow-down occurs with various cameras, different FOVs and both for 8 and 16 bits.
#2 - the Meade generic Ascom driver, that worked ok, now gives rise do error preventing mount guiding motion (N,S,E,W arrow buttons).
I attach:
log file, detailed
screen capture showing mount error message and fps image rate as well as camera settings.
Thanks in advance!
António
I would like to report two issues that occur in last version(s) of SharpCap.
#1 - max fps rate is now slower (e.g. only 40fps in a 640x480 fov for 10ms exposure whereas in earlier versions, and different software, was/is about 100fps). This slow-down occurs with various cameras, different FOVs and both for 8 and 16 bits.
#2 - the Meade generic Ascom driver, that worked ok, now gives rise do error preventing mount guiding motion (N,S,E,W arrow buttons).
I attach:
log file, detailed
screen capture showing mount error message and fps image rate as well as camera settings.
Thanks in advance!
António
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Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi,
I think I know what might have caused the Meade move axis problem - I had code to allow MoveAxis on some old Meade ASCOM drivers that did not support it. Recently I realised that was being used for all Meade drivers, which was probably wrong, and in trying to fix that only applied my fix to the actual movement, not to the list of available movement rates. Anyway, I have a potential fix, which I will put in next week's update.
No easy answer on the frame rate. I have tested 4.0 with the ZWO ASI174, which achieved ~168fps at full resolution, which is the same as the maximum I have seen in other versions. Could you share details of the camera you are using and also the capturesettings files from both 3.2 and 4.0 so we can compare settings for anything that might be causing it.
thanks,
Robin
I think I know what might have caused the Meade move axis problem - I had code to allow MoveAxis on some old Meade ASCOM drivers that did not support it. Recently I realised that was being used for all Meade drivers, which was probably wrong, and in trying to fix that only applied my fix to the actual movement, not to the list of available movement rates. Anyway, I have a potential fix, which I will put in next week's update.
No easy answer on the frame rate. I have tested 4.0 with the ZWO ASI174, which achieved ~168fps at full resolution, which is the same as the maximum I have seen in other versions. Could you share details of the camera you are using and also the capturesettings files from both 3.2 and 4.0 so we can compare settings for anything that might be causing it.
thanks,
Robin
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Ok Robin, similar conditions with 3.2 and 4.0.
270fps with 3.2, about 40 with 4.0.
Best wishes
Antonio
270fps with 3.2, about 40 with 4.0.
Best wishes
Antonio
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi again Robin,
Don't know if this helps, but in latest AsiCap version (ZWO's) the fps rate is also around 40fps (640x480; 16bit; 10ms exposure).
Sharpcap 3.2 in the same computer remains rapid. Also tried firecapture and is fast.
New versions of ZWO drivers?
Thanks!
António
Don't know if this helps, but in latest AsiCap version (ZWO's) the fps rate is also around 40fps (640x480; 16bit; 10ms exposure).
Sharpcap 3.2 in the same computer remains rapid. Also tried firecapture and is fast.
New versions of ZWO drivers?
Thanks!
António
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Sorry If I was not clear...
Earlier version of AsiCap is fast...
Current version of AsiCap is slow...
All from ZWO
António
Earlier version of AsiCap is fast...
Current version of AsiCap is slow...
All from ZWO
António
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Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi,
Ok, a pattern is starting to appear...
Is the slowdown only happening for small ROI selections?
I am thinking that ZWO have changed the way that ROI works so that it no longer has such a big speed advantage. If that was the case then the speed at full resolution would be the same between the two versions, but the speed at small ROI would be different - does that match what you are seeing?
thanks,
Robin
Ok, a pattern is starting to appear...
Is the slowdown only happening for small ROI selections?
I am thinking that ZWO have changed the way that ROI works so that it no longer has such a big speed advantage. If that was the case then the speed at full resolution would be the same between the two versions, but the speed at small ROI would be different - does that match what you are seeing?
thanks,
Robin
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
I will try that, but just one more info...
downloaded SharpCapInstall-4.0.7957.0-64bit (july 7; 64 bit version so I had not to remove latest 32 bit software).
works super-fast
António
downloaded SharpCapInstall-4.0.7957.0-64bit (july 7; 64 bit version so I had not to remove latest 32 bit software).
works super-fast
António
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
OK, here is the data...
183MM pro, 1x1 bin, 1ms exposure so that speed is not compromised...
...............................
latest version, 32 bit:
full frame 8 bit - 19fps
full frame 16 bit - 10fps
1280x1080 8 bit - 40fps
1280x1080 16 bit - 40fps
640x480 8 bit - 40fps
640x480 16 bit - 40fps
320x240 8 bit - 40fps
320x240 16bit - 40fps
...........................................
version 4.07957.0 (july 5, 64 bit):
full frame 8 bit - 19fps
full frame 16 bit - 10fps
1280x1080 8 bit - 70fps
1280x1080 16 bit - 70fps
640x480 8 bit - 150fps
640x480 16 bit -150fps
320x240 8 bit - 270fps
320x240 16bit - 270fps
183MM pro, 1x1 bin, 1ms exposure so that speed is not compromised...
...............................
latest version, 32 bit:
full frame 8 bit - 19fps
full frame 16 bit - 10fps
1280x1080 8 bit - 40fps
1280x1080 16 bit - 40fps
640x480 8 bit - 40fps
640x480 16 bit - 40fps
320x240 8 bit - 40fps
320x240 16bit - 40fps
...........................................
version 4.07957.0 (july 5, 64 bit):
full frame 8 bit - 19fps
full frame 16 bit - 10fps
1280x1080 8 bit - 70fps
1280x1080 16 bit - 70fps
640x480 8 bit - 150fps
640x480 16 bit -150fps
320x240 8 bit - 270fps
320x240 16bit - 270fps
Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi Robin I think your interpretation is correct, and if that is what happened then ZWO changes seriously compromised the value of the camera as a planetary imager.
I hope that you, or them, can revert the issue while using the latest software versions.
Best wishes, and thanks again for the support!
António
I hope that you, or them, can revert the issue while using the latest software versions.
Best wishes, and thanks again for the support!
António
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Re: slower fps rate (planetary) and Meade generic ASCOM driver problem
Hi,
thanks for checking - I will pass it on.
Robin
thanks for checking - I will pass it on.
Robin